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QPO, IC, proZaC - the three phenomenons?
18:19 15 Jul '02 Comments: 36

There are series of just Quake III: Arena important tourneys. Long time since I've seen 3 huge european tourneys going quickly one after another in two months. CPL Cologne, Lan Arena 7, Euro Cup 5 - each one had the chance to be unique, but it happened that we've seen lots of identical matches.

Euro Cup - the most prestigious tourney, but... What had gone last weekend didn't seem to be the thing like everyone was expecting for long time. For myself I had no interest to see either iCe cLIMBERS will win or proZaC & Co... I haven't, essentially, watched any demo. And what could I see there? Of matches between Unreal and Regeneration I'll just speak nothing. Maybe, my departicipation was because of really hot summer in this region, or maybe because 3 big tourneys at once - too much. But maybe it's the unstability of players being in one team.

About QPO and p1mps - everything's already said, Eyeballers surprised us with having Fazz and Fox in the team. Clan mTw with having third places twice is an exception. On CPL Cologne, maybe last time, was the roster of "oldschoolers", on Lan Arena 7 those who didn't want to belong to oldschool generation, gathered and played again. Respect... But it's not the goal of the column, the goal is to write my impression of these tourneys:

: Quad Peoples Organisation - wonderful team, destructing the mypth that people aging over 19 years can't play good Q3. More detail of the roster:

  • Boy_scout - 24 years. Wow.
  • Hjalmarzka - 21 years. This guy's practicing, and he's getting things right.
  • Seka - 23 years.
  • Senti - 18 years. Most suiting year for gaming.
  • Skywalker - 27 years, but haven't seen playing on the tourneys.
  • Tech - 19 years. Got into QPO not so long ago, plays great.
  • proZaC - 17 years. Maybe this one brough the win for QPO?

In short, the roster is exotic. Noting the fact that these "old ones" constantly play in serious matches, the myth of cg_cant_play_well_after_19years "1" doesn't work. Don't know why...

: iCE cLIMBERS-esu - my favourite clan. The overall age of players is most quake-fitting. First time the team shown themselves on Euro Cup 3, where iCE cLIMBERS managed to win two q3dm6tmp games over Unmatched, who were the impossible to win that time. And shortly, IC become the best, winning Unmatched again at CPL London. That was the dream team... Four guys throwing any enemy away on their path. A bit later the team lader, Panicore, leaves the team, but they didn't stop and continued to own. IC had become the leaders of Gib`n`Run online league with their new player Belth.

After that, the "three tourneys" period starts. iCE cLIMBERS had the most stable roster ever, the same players, and I've personally beleived that they will repeat their success at CPL London. Three times they've been at the finals and three times they've been having only second place. Every time losing to other teams: ForZe, QPO, p1mps. I wonder if they will be getting not second, but fourth place :p I coudln't figure out completely, what IC didn't have to win, but I wish this phenomenal team become the best. But now it's unknown when it will happen.

: proZaC - 17-year-old Cyrus Malekani. The best teamplayer in the world, Im sure. However he never had own clan which have been a champion. He just movemen and that team where he plays - the best. There's no much difference, but there's still another essence...

Here's the big three names/brands, which had made my impression at the (again) three high-grade tourneys. Well, maybe I would go watch the demo from WCG finals? There's nothing else to watch...


Comments
#1 - 16:59 / 16 Jul '02 - fricho
This one is nicee!
i said that i love russian ppl xD



#2 - 0:30 / 17 Jul '02 - riske
well written. i agree on most things.
though i don't like the attitude that some of the guys in ic have.



#3 - 0:42 / 17 Jul '02 - wader
re: #2
y, only belth that rules in ic.



#4 - 2:33 / 17 Jul '02 - JKR
I'm not sure what all this to do with age is

The main reason people over 19 don't do as well at quake is because they usually have more commitments. The high schoolers who do jack shit all summer have lots of time to play quake

But if you're 20+ and have hours and hours to play quake, which Im' sure some do.... age shouldn't be a big factor



#5 - 2:34 / 17 Jul '02 - JKR
and I know you were saying that some of these players were proving the "age factor" wrong. I just hadn't heard of that issue before... and think it's pretty meaningless

nice column, btw...

prozac owns :)



#6 - 4:18 / 17 Jul '02 - asdf
is it just me?
who thinks that prozac is just a silly, immature and a quite pathetic peice of s*hit? :)

"Yeye, I'm a PIMP! I'll own you, your mom, your sister, and the entire world!"

Dunno if I'm suppose to laugh or cry... :)



#7 - 4:19 / 17 Jul '02 - asdf
btw...
He doesn't own a shit...



#8 - 13:39 / 17 Jul '02 - Astronic
asdf
ur a idiot, if prozac is immature, what i dont know, he still is a good player.....



#9 - 13:58 / 17 Jul '02 - Septik
asdf, you seem way more immature than him.



#10 - 17:26 / 17 Jul '02 - z
according to net stats from EC V finals fox contributed more to pimps winning



#11 - 18:08 / 17 Jul '02 - PtM
after watchin all p1mps EC5 games i'd agree with that, fox is a v good teamplayer and even when he doesn't get the net he's putting in the work for the team.



#12 - 19:09 / 17 Jul '02 - fizD
hmm ofcourse prozac is 1 off the best playaz....BUT : hes kinda arrogant and childish..lol



#13 - 21:16 / 17 Jul '02 - proddy
:)
how many of u have actually met proZaC?

thnx.



#14 - 22:04 / 17 Jul '02 - Yot
=)
me =)



#15 - 1:20 / 18 Jul '02 - riske
reply to #3
i remember gopher and house flaming clanbase in ec4... that was just sad.



#16 - 14:32 / 18 Jul '02 - will
tbh if these events were held near the winter they would have alot more people interested, its to damn hot to play games overthe summer,most people like to be out chilling, relaxing.



#17 - 22:07 / 18 Jul '02 - Wimp
only wader who's egning the swe q3 scene, using his famous "färddryck"... plz do not reply!



#18 - 22:19 / 18 Jul '02 - Wimp
wtf... f'a'rddryck



#19 - 1:25 / 19 Jul '02 - Gibmaster
All your base are belong to sweden



#20 - 17:53 / 19 Jul '02 - HMage
All your gibmastars are belong to us!



#21 - 18:27 / 19 Jul '02 - asdf
#8
am I immature, sharing my own opinoins of your so called "quake god" or whatever you might think he is...?

He's still lame...



#22 - 18:32 / 19 Jul '02 - asdf
I mean... just read a interview of him, he always makes lame statements and thinks that he's THE best and whatsoever... sure, then he should prove it and beat the living shit out of zero4 - which he won't, probably won't get a single frag against him.



#23 - 19:47 / 19 Jul '02 - fricho
Heh i agree with asdf TOTALY , full support prozac is shittyFace kid!



#24 - 12:28 / 21 Jul '02 - Randal
lol Z4 has been actively playing duel 4 some years while proZac is only TDMing...so its senseless 2 compare them on that level.

but prozac is indeed a great player ( though Z4 did play VERY good at LA7 in contrast 2 the rest of 519, so maybe he is a very good team player aswell !! ) and deserves the same. good god he is 17 and one of the most famous Q3 players out there, but he is still a human being with faults and i think its lame 2 judge and 2 flame him in such personal way..



#25 - 9:55 / 22 Jul '02 - light
He might seem arrogant especially if you read interviews with him like the highly self-ironic one posted at xsreality.com once... And the OCB movie from EC5 where they interviewed and he said it was easy to win and so forth... I think someone needs to get out more and i think its nice to see people like him having that kind of humour.

Anyways i disagree that he is the best TDM'er ever but deciding who really is the best to me is quite difficult concidering we are dealing with teamplay and completeness of certain clans/teams would be more fair to discuss.. :)



#26 - 19:34 / 27 Jul '02 - Calippo
Go tol hell!
Toxic is the best TDM player in the w0rld s0000k ;>



#27 - 21:41 / 27 Jul '02 - cait
actually..
i agree with you about Toxic beeing the best TDM'er. and for the second place i would like to see, not proZaC, but Mikes. anyway, the reason for me to think of Toxic as the best is just that when you look at a demo of some TDM game and the POV-player gets killed. And it goes like "ZZZZAAP!!! or BAAMMM or whatever" and you go -WTF?!!!. you bring down the console just to see what really happened (doh). and there it is, black on white, <player> was completely owned by esu-Toxic.



#28 - 23:51 / 28 Jul '02 - riske
phoKKz!!!



#29 - 3:00 / 30 Jul '02 - p1stol
reply to #13
i have pummeld proZaC !!! taste that !!!



#30 - 15:39 / 30 Jul '02 - Scipy
frichu u ic
yep, fricho should go to ic :D



#31 - 17:11 / 31 Jul '02 - Yautja
clanhoppers should be banned !! :P
imo switching between clans is a gay and weak thing. i love the old school players like toxic and gopher but who am I ?

peace



#32 - 15:41 / 9 Aug '02 - belth
cait, i agree with u there, mikes is an awesome player, and among the best of the best :I



#33 - 1:27 / 14 Aug '02 - HolyFather
Prozac obsession :/
Prozac is the best FFA style TDM player in the world. As a duelist I think he still has some things to prove in a major tourney. But it's depressing to see a top player like Polo think that QPO is mostly Prozac, when clearly he's been given the role of "rogue" team player, i.e. give him weapons and quad and let him jump around and kill instead of holding positions etc.

It seems to me there are more than one player in a clan. Put Prozac in a clan of n00bs and they would get nowhere in the tourneys. Take prozac away from QPO and QPO would still be climbing the ladder.

Age of course has no other bearing on a players skillz. Even if you only play an hour a day and cram before tourneys, you still retain your skillz. So while having a job etc doesn&#228;t mean you won't play enough Q3, maybe being adult will make you less interested in playing computer games and more interested in other things. I take Lakerman as a prime example.

As for clanhopping, all you need do is search for prozac demos on this forum and check the list of clans compared to the number of top matches in each clan...

That said, respect to anyone who could beat Pele on pt4.

But that was a year ago, and today, as duelists go, I'm not obsessed, but are looking at other people to set new standards - people like Fox, Fazz, Zamuz, mikes, if22, polo, zero4... mostly people from europe / russia / north america but there's so many good players out there, it's just stupid to assume that the "famous" guys are the only ones that are gonna be "best".

cmon Unknown Ownorz out there, tool up for the next big tourney and make some comfy celebrities know what's what!



#34 - 8:34 / 13 Nov '02 - ic-ju@no
toxic rulz
toxic (for me), the best TDM in the world, i was see the eurocup 3 and i was checking his play.
i life in colombia and the ic doesn&#180;t mean ice cambers, it means Inmundanos Clan, and has a good players.



#35 - 8:25 / 18 Nov '02 - ic-ju@no
what happen??
PORFAVOR POSTEEN&#161;&#161;&#161;&#161; JEJEJ





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